For example, if your first sexual experience is a violent one, pain could cause you to become numb sexually and emotionally. Before she told you the number and after she told you the number she is still the same woman you fell in love with. It benefits to see the bigger picture and all angles of a situation. to see just how much power in these relationships and families that women do Self respect and value for yourself, if somebody wanted that lifestyle then why should they get to have somebody who didnt have that lifestyle. You assume that not being old fashioned means being a slut. women wait for 10 men and get to choose 1. although Ive had my fair share partners i dont like a woman who has. As for Step your game up! Sex shouldnt be a competition. Dude, you better check yourself before you mess yourself! Im just happy you were open minded enough to actually read it again and see where I was coming from. 4) Past baggage (Kids, men, pictures, etc ex lovers who know her, pics or video of ex partners doing unspeakable things to your significant other, stories and reputation) I believe the average male has a high sex drive, created to be the leader/pursuer.. You are correct in that position, but what I am saying in this article is to not make final judgement based more on their past instead of the person they are today. For example, are you afraid you won't be good enough and she'll leave, breaking your heart? After my grandmother died things werent the same. Also, having a high number of partners can cause him to have negative opinions of her. low tiers don't even exist in their world they are completely invisible and when they are forced to notice our existence they don't see us as human they se us as inanimate objects to just deal with and make go away asap they know nothing about what the life of a man is like, This is why they say shit like "why are you guys so upset just use tinder to get threesomes every weekend what's wrong teehee" because every guy who exist in theyre world can do stuff like that. I would rather date a Virgin. I know plenty of beta men who choose to date promiscuous womenusually because they settle, or realize they cant do better. All the sudden, I stopped wanting to sleep around and it was no longer enjoyable. Either way we can just agree to disagree. Do you feel it is because she has cheated in the past or because she doesn't have to be in a relationship to sleep with a guy? Well it certainly does which really makes these women very Pathetic. Not a good example. And yeah I'm definitely better than any of the other guys I've heard she's been with. And while I was confident she would never cheat on me, it still bothered me that she let that many men use her that way before me. Guess what? N most of the time the dudes around you have the same type of woman. Is this maths answer correct for probability? Would you REALLY want to buy that car after you heard that? I think you are not getting the point of this article. Hoe Stroll is defined as a period of time where a woman is much more promiscuous than she has ever been or will be again. Men get to play while we sit at home waiting for our love? Isnt it women who tell men & society: You cant tell me what to do w/ my body?Especially when it comes to pregnancy & abortion?Therefore women are admitting that having a womb comes w/ having more responsibility. You are the very reason Stefan was inspired to write this article. the fire between them grows up again and they start f..ng silly like bunnies behind your back! on the flip side women whos spent their lives cheating and using unprotected sex have no respect for themselves and should never wake up one day after deciding that they want to be treated like a princess, given that respect. I told her that unless she knew those particular girls background, she really had no basis to formulate a judgment. Men still are conscious of disease and do not want a woman who has been I completely disagree with your statement that most women divorce because they have affairs. I hate to have to point out common sense to you, but obviously. Ill try to stay afloat and let you know what I think. I think if sexuality was embraced more instead of used as a marketing tool women wouldnt be ashamed or use sex for any other means. Anyone who tells you different is selling something or a rabid feminist. I was always very in tuned with myself, much more than any other woman I knew. IT SHOWS TOOI PREFER TO OFFER MY FUTURE SPOUSE A TIGHT POCKET BOOK NOT A BUCKET. would sleep with them while single. So when a man does commit, he wanted to ensure that the woman he was investing his time and resources in was bearing his own children so that his genes were the ones being passed on and not other other mans child. I know she has never had a super long term relationship and by her own admittance promiscuity has always been a part of her life for example. BUt i loved him so much i would have worked on the problem along with him, supported him if he was ready to move forward. Yes, there's a big difference. So its reasonable to treat number of partners as risk factor it seems. Now i think the man also has the right to either loke what u did or not So I went out into the world thinking that everyone just wanted to enjoy themselves and be happy but I was so wrong. Sorry, bro. are is the number that would still be acceptable to most. Numbers is a hugh factor when it comes to a woman because they do make the ultimate choice yes or no. I mean, women are choosing the dumb guys that happen to be physically fit and can maybe dance. Trust me, there are men married to or in a relationship with women they think has had very few sex partners, when in reality the numbers are much higher than he will ever know. Or whether you have 3 kids by 3 different women. 6. I find guys who sleep around to be disgusting also, but they aren't of any interest to me because I am a straight male. I feel there is a price that is paid for the way you are choosing to approach this issue, but nothing I can say will convince you otherwise. THIS IS LIFE. So know this, men will have their values, its just sad u will bypassed becos of it. Men have conqiustadorian aditudes about many things including women. Speaking of lazy, I have looked over the study which you were apparently too lazy to just hyperlink to yourself after being asked to twice https://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/3600089?uid=3739448&uid=2&uid=3737720&uid=4&sid=21102211994521 and the man is ESTIMATING his own word that the chances of marital dissolution go up for any woman who was not a virgin prior to marrying or cohabitating with her partner. hint 3: even from the most selfish perspective, the women you degrade as "sluts" are fun. It is the little matter of lying about the past that makes it untennable. If he looks upset, I'll just say something like, 'I'm sorry,' when he stops talking. Some guys are really looking for that one who has waited. Every man has to question how many men she slept with and isolate her and own her so she wont sleep around. I dont know. I dont ever wonder what I missed out on, I know the answer is not much! I started at 18, averaged 2.78 a year. Communicate expectations! And dont assume that the men who play arent still looking for a relationship but last time I checked, the feel of a women is a helluva lot different than a hand job at midnight and will therefore satisfy that itch while they find the one. At the end of the day, its all about what works to pass on genes. Enter your info below and join my VIP list. I still disagree with your overall position on the matter. Sometimes some of the same issues that are hurting that marriage are what contributed to that women even being promiscuous in the first place. So this woman never lied about anything. around, her value diminishes in terms of her being less chaste, which is less We have had this conversation. For me it does matter a lot, I've had both girlfriends who had a lot of partners and others that had a few, and the ones who had a lot of partners always turned out to be crazy, so no thanks . It refers to a woman . LoL! And when your whore whoops I meant wife has a flashback during intercourse and screams calls out Kobe just know, she not cheering for the Lakers. Sin is sin is sin. I do not agree that the more partners she has had the more likely the marriage will fail. People shouldnt be so quick to judge others. I dont think so. At the end of the day I am grateful for her in my life but it still bothers me every day getting it off my chest and hearing other guys in similar situation really let me see it in another light instead of it sitting in the pit of my stomach and getting rotten. This shouldnt matter, but you checking cell phones?? I dont think society realizes how many women (and men) have been sexually abused. I understand how people may view that person, but that doesnt make it right. Im dont want the mother of my children, the single person out of all of humanity that I choose to share the rest of my life with to have been used and ridden like the town bike. Its insane for you to debate with tha world like its ok for a woman to sleep with a number of men and expect no one to judge this is life my man mind you that even tho its wrong to judge cause God has that power people still gon do it. Who she was it not always who she is now. In a loving relationship, no divorce (or marriage) will ever be based on financial reasons. If you did respect her, you wouldn't really be having this conversation, would you? If your 30 and you had sex with 45 people, And the truth is most men wont like it. Theres nothing special about having a turn with a town bicycle. Also statistically, men and women who have had many partners set unrealistic standards for their future partners to adhere to. However, for menthey are target-marketed like pigs in a pen. How can we embrace each other if we continue to hold over a persons head what they once did, and even allow it to overshadow what they do now. I see what you're saying about burning the toxic feelings and I agree 100% I want to get rid of them and out of this mindset very badly and even from what I've read thus far this thread and people input have helped me to frame my thoughts a lot. over 100 is just obvious, whether you see yourself as having a modern approach more imperative because, if given a choice, men will choose the more virtuous Im 25 and have been with at least 20 different partners however that number does not define my character. Sorry, no thanks. That scares me more than anything else. Employers, colleges, every institution we have asks about past because it matters. In the last few years I have hurt her with my venting and myself deeply as well with the thought of it. And women who have slept with a lot of men are simply less likely to be deemed compatible as marriage-material. Having sex with your man . My wife has been much more sexually active than I have. Its only beta males, and soft men who have been brainwashed by feminism, or who attempt to co-opt these arguments in order to get into womens pants, who are ok dating sluts. You are the choices you make and the life you live. Since a lot of people have a problem with the objectification of women let's view her as a human woman again. But I think it is a mistake, and not the best approach to walk away from a woman that you feel is genuinely showing herself to be the woman you desire today. Not always, but often. It assumes that all women have slept with more partners than I would find comfortable (far from correct), and that the only way I could end up happy and not lonely is to settle down and marry someone. What ever happened to the days when articles encouraged people to better themselves. Lol wow, do you realize there is a difference between wanting a girl that has been around versus not judging a girl that has been around. For me I think that was the last straw I noticed myself, not eating, and being depressed I seeked out councelling and it was determined that this double standard, combined with verbal abuse over 9 years has made me clinically depressed..She has had councelling too now and is resolving all the damage previously caused by her previous encounters. This is because the kind of ppl who would say things like "dating a slut" view a woman sleeping with others casually as this terrible dirty thing. One small example would be crying Acceptable for women over many small things, not acceptable for men..I doubt many women would be attracted to guys who cried almost daily over any small thing. /Especially/ when choosing a mate. The problems with childbirth grow exponentially by year Well written article. (multiple boards, articles studies etc) evince its importance. Lmao @ Whale Poop. understand where youre coming from, and just give you a chance? That is why at the very beginning I say I think it is best for people to wait with sex. Not much wife material out there. And no, I have not slept with more than 10 women and yes I am 30 yrs old so I swear to you that it can be done. It doesnt make good sense. As you stated, as long as she is disease free, there should be no issue. Mentally.not so much. The skank on the other hand discloses with everyone how many people she's been with. forgotten how to be committed. They are seeking love. Those who belittle this concern are just those who have a sketchy past and don't like being possibly judged for it. I would rather date a Guy who has slept around. Wesley Pipes, calls out Kobe' lol you really took it there. This is why abstinence is essential. Why invest your time, emotion and energy into a person who does not share the same sexual compatibility that you do because you naively want to believe that how many people she has slept with doesnt matter. Sorry but it is a cutoff and a major factor in a potential mate. Just that the second one gets paid for it? You, as a woman, are obviously free to care (or not) how many previous partners your man has been with. Doesnt mean a man will like it, but is it really worth letting go of a good thing because of a number. If youknow your man is secure, then why wouldnt you tell him the truth? If you can't, she'd be right to drop you. But I hope u find the great guy tho. She had to attractive to a potential suitor. We women are more than what is between our legs. about you. Fast Stream 2023 (Reinstated) applicants thread. 3 Risk Factors For Women Who Sleep Around Having Unattached Sex well now endure the consecuences you will find people who doesnt care but you will also face that there are people who cares. I swear, idiots..youre just being selfish. I know plently of them. And, we've all sinned a lot. Women on the other hand get slandered, disrespected, and chastised for their choice to be promiscuous at any point in their lives. the sluttier a woman is the less loyal she is and less stable the marriage will be. I had been with 100 myself. You have to go deeper to get a clearer picture and to see if this is still a woman battling certain issues or a woman who has been far removed from what she once was. That doesnt define who you will be.. I think you deserve to know the truth. This is why the feminist message that women should go and lots of sex (presumably to be more like men) is so damaging. lose this person, they are exactly what you were looking for and they actually Women lie about their past(and men know it) and Men in turn lie about love and marriage . Additionally, male and female sexuality is just different. As a woman, if you are ashamed to reveal the number of partners you have had in your lifetimethen why should the male be ok with that? I totally agree with you. And as a quick aside, we both know that if a man and a women who are equally attractive enter a bar and make a bet as to who can get laid first, the woman will always win. Can it work out with an ex a bit further down the line? So many men end up with a woman they swear meets their standards in regards to their sexual past, but really she has done much more then he will ever know. 8 Best Landing Page Builders This Year. 806 8067 22 Registered Office: Imperial House, 2nd Floor, 40-42 Queens Road, Brighton, East Sussex, BN1 3XB, Taking a break or withdrawing from your course, Official Dental Hygiene and Therapy (Oral Health Science) 2023 Entry Thread. But you know what, screw it. YOU WOULD OWN THAT SHIT. And she is the perfect wife! We all make judgments all the time. Thank you very much. But here is what i do care about, how I get treated based on what she has gone through her past. They almost always act differently then those who havent. Amen brother. I can tell how angry I made you, and your calling of names is cute, but unnecessary. A promiscuous past can definitely lead to issues in the present, but that is not always the case. Then on my 15th bday I was raped by someone I didnt even know was watching me as child. There is simply so much that goes along with the number. Who are they sleeping with? Who has the power there ??? Most women these days DO have lots of experience. Just saying that people have been held accountable for their past since the beginning of time. Never thought at 39 there would be so many issues when going into a relationship but I am learning quickly. There really is no advice. Think about this. Whats cool is a man being willing to marry a woman he genuinely loves and connects with regardless of how she once was in the past. Or cheated or whatever. Also understand some people do not choose to have sex because they view it as not having respect for themselves some just like it and view it as a choice they have the right to make (we can debate whether that choice is right or wrong). Just say you finnaly got a date, where would you go? This doesnt make them bad people, but it does make them completely unsuitable as life mates. Its my sincere opinion that if we lived in a more egalitarian society the issues surrounding promiscuity wouldnt be such an issue and people wouldnt be so quick to judge one another. B) Twenty sex partners, had sex a total of 100 times. Its so they wont feel so bad about what they consider negatives about themselves or to justify them staying with someone who is totally wrong for them. Just b/c those were accpetable practices in the past doesnt mean we as a society have to continue to adhere to them and perpetuate their message. There is a strong feeling of anti-social others have been hurt that bad or that many times by c*nts (male or female) that they just stay single. You threw out the number 50, but in this topic a high number is relative. You have your opinions, and they are just that your opinion, and I have my opinion. I had a serious relationship with my ex wehn i was 26, i lost my virginity to him, however he did not lose it with me, i knew he had an ex..but that never bothered me i loved and cared for him just the same, we both wanted to get married but it was not able to materialize as parents would not agree. As soon as the relationship gets rocky, No but ultimately the man that she winds up with will have to deal with the issues that come about from being with a woman that will, more likely than not, have very different thoughts and views on sex. I agree with you 100% that the more partners a man or woman has can have a negative impact on how they handle future relationships. You said it in your comment Jeraldelmcclane women who are unable to stay connected emotionally to their husbands. This is because the kind of ppl who would say things like "dating a slut" view a woman sleeping with others casually as this terrible dirty thing. But it seems like you want to get over those beliefs, because you recognize there is something wrong with them. A) Two long-term sex partners, had sex a total of 1000 times. interact. Men have just as much of a right to choose as women do. I like how you caught yourself on that : ). 1) difference between studs and hoes. I just dont think that is ever worth passing on a woman that may be the right woman for that man. A lot of things have been in practice since the beginning of time, that does not mean it is the best or most effective approach. He willingly suffered and took our punishment for our sin upon Himself. Personally, I think that men and women should strive to have a lower number of sexual partners but I dont think that women should try to act like men in the thinking that having numerous partners is a good thing. No way either of us could get bored and look elsewhere!! Our wisdom is a form a judgement. If she isnt what you need her to be currently, then of course keep it moving. Women need to get it together!!!! I have experienced half truths, stories with too many holes in them, and when I confronted her about the inconsistencies in her stories regarding her past lovers, she fabricated more lies. Hell, slavery once was a part of our past and I think most would agree that they dont want to see that practice emerge again. Which is funny because The more rare a commodity is the more valuable it becomes. It carries some truth to it undoubtedly. Is it any wonder why marriages are going downhill ? Its just not allowed. Nice try though. upbringing etc. 1. The summary in red pill logic is a girl who has slept around a lot will have a lot of emotional issues and will end up cheating on you. Wouldnt you feel like you are worthless? I love this article! You can talk a good talk a good talk about how the The Almighty GOD being nothing but a storybook fable all you want. Yeah but we need to respect our bodies as men too. The issue runs deeper than that, and we should take a closer look as to what causes or contributes to people stepping out on each other. Indeed, while the data presented in The Marriage Project's 418-person study is legitimate, experts say that the conclusions drawn from it -- especially those which cast judgement on one's sexual history and incite sentiments of slut-shaming -- may not be entirely accurate. Ive broken hearts and have been burned myself. So, wat about da age do it matter? And those who see insults where there are none typically have multiple issues as well. I really really really don't want it to leak out in the slightest and thus far have done a good job to not responding for the most part to the passing remarks we've had about her past. Intriguing debate between you & Altamera74, and as you state it is his opinion that he is entitled to. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your email below to join the VIP list. She's also in an art related major and I've always been drawn to girls who are artistic or creative even if I'm not entirely like that. I will say that there are plenty reasons why it would be best for all to wait that can be applied to anybody regardless of their spiritual affiliation. Your source was concerned with the myth of high rate of divorce in general, and was not studying the relatively high incidences of higher divorce amongst women with more sexual partners. Men choose what qualities are appealing in choosing who to commit to what you or anyone else thinks should matter has about zero influence on what men choose, if women want to get married someday the have be what a man wants to marry. yeah of course it matter because a hoe is a hoe. About how each time she sleeps I hole hearted believe both males and females can be whores. hint 2: dating highly sexual people simply involves better communication and actual adult emotional processing skills. In fact, you should give yourself time to grieve the sin (Ecclesiastes 3:4; 2 Corinthians 7:10). least. If you are brigading from another subreddit you will be banned. HE can build the world and populate it far quicker than SHE can. These women oftenhave a very nontraditional view of the way a woman should carry herself in a relationship. My parents were the hippy free-spirit types who told me that I should enjoy and experience life and do what makes me happy. See I then made the mistake of going through all of her old emails and weve talked about it alot it never makes me feel any better about it just worse to be honest to know the things shes done, now shes a mom, we have a baby together and it kind of taints the whole thing. Being forced to settle for a woman who has been ridden like the town bike, and shared her body with dozens, if not hundreds of men is very weak, and very low-standard. I will definitely address it and I hope you let me know what you think when that time comes : ). And, dude, Im going to say this to you, and then Ill be signing off. We have to be mature enough to accept people for who they are today in the same way in which we would want others to accept us. Be open, talk about your wants, your needs, your boundaries. As the article stated, STDs are not a product of high numbers, so somebody who has only been with 1 can have an STD while someone who has been with 80 could have no STDs at all. Life. Even the girl who says she has casual sex without emotions points out the sex she had was with people she was already emotionally connected to, her friends. That's pretty low for a guy". I hit the cutoff line at 5 MAX. choosing to be selective in whom they sleep with. contraception. She will hardly change, Yes its does matter every man a woman sleeps with leaves DNA in them. Much wiser to look at how a person has actually lived a life. For instance, you are judging that other woman for judging other women. It is not fair to either spouse to have to compete with previous whether perceived or real upgrades the previous partner had. So youre in love and want the relationship to work. Our pasts, now matter how much we embrace or deny them, makes us who we are. Stop posting this stupid things. This is only my input on the subject as I have been tackling this topic for weeks now and I am open to everybody's opinion. I think we should always evaluate the individual for who they are right now. Please subscribe to our newsletter to get the latest news in your domain of interest. And, neither are women programmed in any way, shape or form to share their mates! If her vagina still makes you come who cares how loose or tight it is. JESUS is calling souls that believe, know, love, trust,and have set their lives apart for HIS second coming, those HE is saying, HOLD ON just little while longer everything is will work as HE has plan it from the beginning. Every self-respecting guy I know does not want to settle down with a whore, and would respect a woman less if he learned she had 100 former partners vs. say 8. It honestly is a question of a womans character. I've just been pulled super fucking deep into this r/seduction stuff albeit not too much into this red pill stuff. on the lookout for new sex partners, because they dont value physical So I must be doing something right for her to love me. I recommend a highly-qualified psychiatrist. Everything you could ask for and more. So you may want to take a deeper look in trying to understand the problem and how to better approach it. Youve literally dated so much that your idea of a great person is flawed. Dude, this toxic line of thinking is going to make you so miserable. See I do not expect for anybody to be with someone that does not share some of the same core values that they have. She's not who she's going to be, young women can be very insecure. I understand a lot of what you have said and certain points are valid. I myself agree with not judging a future mate depending solely on the number of past partners. I told her not to be judgmental. Its not your fault. Instead, he should feel the love and respect she has for him. Some of the points you made in your last response was where I was trying to go, but duty called and I had to cut my post short. And even if they do, Im not going to be there to find out. Oh yes it does. You are not sexually compatible) Or, if a man is already with a woman, and he truly loves this woman. ive slept with 14 guys and im still tight and ocasionally asked if im a virgin. The choices you make in life matter and have consequences. So If her numbers are that high, tyou would move out of town to avoid her many past lovers? Actually this research was proven by a Womens Organization! If you are not compatible in how you view the world and along with many other views you may not be good together. To say she is damaged goods is a misnomer because you assume that her worth is completely controlled by her sexuality and how she uses it. You are not. Thats insane. If you cannot admit how many partners you have had or feel like nobody has the right to know, especially your potential HUSBAND, then you are a joke of a woman, a lie and a fake. How can that be true when most divorces end for financial reasons?Plus most women cheat because they are being emotionally neglected at home.I just dont know how you would think that most divorces occur because women who have slept around a lot arent satisfied with being with just one man.Where did this all come from? You can continue with your exact same position that speaks against it, but there is a way for people to do that without it coming across so negative towards the other. Not saying that is ok and right, just pointing that out. The thing is this is just the word I decided to use and I don't have a problem with a girl sleeping with a lot of people in general I'm worried about dating somebody like this and what it's effects could be. Ladies, as a Man with successful experience, KEEP THOSE LEGS CLOSED until you find the right Man. As she is disease free, there should be no issue never thought 39... 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